Is there a simple version of how sema vs tirz are different — anyone have experience?

EndoResFellow said:

Most of what circulates confidently in this community traces back to one summary of one study, and the qualifier was dropped somewhere in the third…

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. If you are comparing against somebody else’s result, check that you are comparing the same measurement taken the same way. Most of the apparent contradictions in these threads dissolve at that step.

Following on from EndoResFellow — and this may be the naive question:

How long did you give it before you decided it was working?

quinn_sf said:

If you are comparing against somebody else’s result, check that you are comparing the same measurement taken the same way.

I do not accept the framing. The question has been narrowed to the version that has a tidy answer, and the part that was dropped is the part the OP actually asked about.

Closing the loop on my own question.

Closing this out: the trough rather than the peak explains the pattern I was seeing on day six, which I had been blaming on the vial.