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Semaglutide cardiovascular benefit: SELECT trial deep dive — looking for input

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Dec 24, 2024 at 4:54 AM#16

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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Dec 24, 2024 at 1:52 PM#17
rachel_ABQ said:
NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk. In 3,297 T2DM patients with high CV risk: MACE HR 0.74 (95% CI 0.58-0.95, p=0.02)[1].

Notable: the retinopathy signal in SUSTAIN-6 (HR 1.76) was subsequently attributed to rapid A1C reduction in patients with pre-existing retinopathy — not a direct drug effect. This has been confirmed in longer-term follow-up studies.

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[1] Marso SP, et al. N Engl J Med. 2016;375(19):1834-1844.
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Dec 24, 2024 at 10:50 PM#18
rachel_ABQ said:
NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

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Dec 25, 2024 at 7:47 AM#19
rachel_ABQ said:
NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

Saving this. It is the first explanation that did not require me to already understand it. Taking it to my next appointment.

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Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful. No action needed from anybody.

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