Dr.SurgeonPGH said:The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated.
True, with the qualification that this is a self-selected group. The people for whom it did not work post less, and that shapes everything we think we know.
adam_van said:The glucagon component looks paradoxical and is not.
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. Printing the relevant bit and taking it with me.
Dr.SurgeonPGH said:The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated.
Careful with the causal language. Two things moving together in a period when five things changed is not a mechanism, and stating it as one makes the thread less useful to somebody reading it later.
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Browse GL BiochemAdding the numbers, since they settle part of this. Worth stating the units and the reference range whenever you post a number here. A large fraction of the apparent disagreement in these threads is two people using different units and both being right.
If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.
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