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Comparative pharmacokinetics: semaglutide vs tirzepatide vs retatrutide — need advice

emily_PDX Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 4:07 PM 36 replies 2,470 viewsPage 6 of 8
sophie_paris
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Jul 27, 2024 at 7:34 PM#26
chris_chi24 said:
The distinction that resolves most of these threads is between what is true on average and what is true for one person.

Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale.

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Jul 28, 2024 at 9:19 AM#27
chris_chi24 said:
The distinction that resolves most of these threads is between what is true on average and what is true for one person.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central. GLP-1 receptor agonism in the arcuate nucleus stimulates POMC neurons and suppresses AgRP/NPY signalling, which is why the effect is appetite and food salience rather than physical fullness. Delayed gastric emptying largely tachyphylaxes over the first months; the appetite effect does not.

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Jul 28, 2024 at 11:04 PM#28

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. For anyone assembling their own picture: Tmax is one to three days, terminal half-life about 165 to 170 hours, steady state at four to five weeks, and subcutaneous bioavailability near 89%. Those four numbers explain most of the questions people ask about timing.

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Jul 29, 2024 at 12:48 PM#29

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How much of the between-person variation is pharmacokinetic and how much is just adherence measured badly?

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Jul 30, 2024 at 2:32 AM#30

Reporting back.

Closing this out: the trough rather than the peak explains the pattern I was seeing on day six, which I had been blaming on the vial.

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