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Meal prepping when you have zero appetite is so weird — my results so far

JenMemphis Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 1:39 PM 26 replies 2,101 viewsPage 1 of 6
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Oct 18, 2024 at 1:39 PM#1

Read the primary source rather than the write-up and the two do not agree, so here is what is actually in it.

Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background computation about food that most people with obesity live with and most people without it do not believe exists. GLP-1 agonism reduces the salience of food cues in the reward pathway rather than simply reducing hunger, which is why the reported experience is silence rather than willpower. It is also why its return on dose reduction is the first thing people notice, well before the weight moves.

Where I think it is weakest: the follow-up is short relative to how long people actually take these drugs, so durability is an assumption here rather than a finding.

The question I want answered is whether the quiet is the same mechanism as the appetite suppression or a separate one, because they seem to come and go on different schedules. If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

Note on sourcing:
Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
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Oct 18, 2024 at 2:36 PM#2
JenMemphis said:
Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background…

Neuroscience perspective on food noise:

GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the CNS, with high density in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, area postrema, and — critically — the mesolimbic reward pathway[1].

This is directly relevant to food noise because the central effects of GLP-1 agonists extend far beyond simple appetite suppression. The reduction in "food noise" that patients describe is likely mediated by modulation of dopaminergic signaling in the VTA and nucleus accumbens.

The emerging data on reduced addictive behaviors (alcohol, gambling) further supports this mechanism. food noise should be understood in this broader neurobiological context.

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[1] Merchenthaler I, et al. J Comp Neurol. 1999;403(2):261-280.
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Oct 18, 2024 at 3:33 PM#3
JenMemphis said:
Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background…

Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back. Like a switch flipped. It was eye-opening to feel the difference.

This experience actually reinforced my understanding of what the medication does — it's not just "suppressing appetite," it's normalizing dysregulated hunger signaling. When the drug wears off, you feel the full force of what it was managing.

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Oct 18, 2024 at 4:30 PM#4
DebRD_ATL said:
Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back.

Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation. Real hunger: gradual onset, physical stomach sensation, any food sounds good. Phantom hunger: sudden, emotionally triggered, specific food cravings, occurs right after eating.

The GLP-1 agonist suppresses real hunger beautifully. Phantom hunger still pops up but I can now recognize it for what it is — an emotional signal, not a physical need. Mindfulness training helped enormously with this distinction.

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Oct 18, 2024 at 9:52 PM#5
DanielChem_CHI said:
Neuroscience perspective on food noise: GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the CNS, with high density in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, area…

Same pattern here, and in the same order. Posting only so the count is not one.

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