HPLC_Greg said:Say what you would expect to see if you were wrong, before you look.
No disagreement, though the timescale matters more than the mechanism here. Most of what looks like a difference in kind turns out to be a difference in how long somebody waited.
HPLC_Greg said:Say what you would expect to see if you were wrong, before you look.
This is exactly what I could not find anywhere else. Printing the relevant bit and taking it with me.
Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either. Those three things can all be true at once, and most arguments here are two people holding different parts of that.
If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.
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Browse GL BiochemFound this through search years later and it is still the best discussion of the question, so adding one thing. Worth stating the units and the reference range whenever you post a number here. A large fraction of the apparent disagreement in these threads is two people using different units and both being right.
anna.melb_AU said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
Coming at anna.melb_AU’s question from a different direction. Whatever the answer turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, and invite the correction. That is slower than asserting, and it is the only version that survives being wrong.