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Insomnia on semaglutide — need advice

wei_SG Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 5:21 AM 34 replies 1,822 viewsPage 2 of 7
Dr.ObesityMed
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Dec 18, 2024 at 1:06 AM#6
Dr.GutHealth said:
The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. The trial means are being read too generously in this thread. STEP populations were selected, supported, and titrated by protocol, and the real-world curves are consistently a few points worse. That difference is not noise, it is what happens when you remove the study infrastructure.

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Dec 18, 2024 at 8:57 AM#7

One concrete data point for the thread. For anyone assembling their own picture: Tmax is one to three days, terminal half-life about 165 to 170 hours, steady state at four to five weeks, and subcutaneous bioavailability near 89%. Those four numbers explain most of the questions people ask about timing.

Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.

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Dec 18, 2024 at 4:49 PM#8
Dr.ObesityMed said:
The trial means are being read too generously in this thread.

Coming at Dr.ObesityMed’s question from a different direction. It helps to ask what evidence would change your mind before you look at any. If nothing would, the discussion is not about evidence, and it is better to say so early than to spend nine posts discovering it.

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Dec 19, 2024 at 12:41 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?

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Dec 20, 2024 at 2:26 PM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Following this thread I went back and re-read the extension data properly. The point about trough rather than peak explains the pattern I was seeing on day six, which I had been blaming on the vial.

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