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Has anyone dealt with mash biomarker panel?

Dr.ObesityMed Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 9:09 PM 27 replies 2,236 viewsPage 1 of 6
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Jul 22, 2024 at 9:09 PM#1

Fatty liver on an incidental scan two years ago and nobody followed it up. Now that I am losing weight I would like to know what to re-measure.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: whether normalised enzymes tell you anything about fibrosis, and what the right follow-up measurement is.

I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

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Jul 22, 2024 at 10:43 PM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. A defensible baseline is short: HbA1c and fasting glucose, a lipid panel with ApoB if you can get it, ALT and AST, creatinine with eGFR, TSH, ferritin and B12, and a full blood count. That set catches the things that change, the things that explain symptoms, and the things that alter the prescribing decision. Almost everything else on the long circulating lists is either invariant, uninterpretable without a specific question, or an incidental finding waiting to cause an unnecessary workup.

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Jul 23, 2024 at 12:17 AM#3
Dr.CardioMD said:
A defensible baseline is short: HbA1c and fasting glucose, a lipid panel with ApoB if you can get it, ALT and AST, creatinine with eGFR, TSH, ferritin…

Agreed, and reference ranges are laboratory-specific. Comparing your number to somebody else's range, or to a screenshot from another country, is how people convince themselves something is wrong.

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Jul 23, 2024 at 1:51 AM#4
Dr.ObesityMed said:
Fatty liver on an incidental scan two years ago and nobody followed it up.

Can confirm the pattern Dr.ObesityMed describes. One addition: if the lab changes analytical platform between your draws, the comparison breaks and nobody tells you. It is worth asking when a value moves inexplicably.

That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.

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Jul 23, 2024 at 11:01 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Liver enzyme update related to liver and MASH: I had mildly elevated ALT/AST at baseline (likely NAFLD). After 7 months on GLP-1 therapy:

MarkerBaselineCurrentNormal Range
ALT58257-56 U/L
AST512710-40 U/L
GGT78359-48 U/L
ALP988544-147 U/L

FibroScan also improved — liver stiffness from 9.5 kPa to 6.2 kPa. The evidence for GLP-1 agonists in NAFLD/NASH is very promising.

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