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Survodutide SYNCHRONIZE Phase 3 — November 2025

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BenResearch_OR
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Sep 12, 2024 at 1:50 PM#6
LabKate said:
Read four things before the headline number.

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.

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Sep 12, 2024 at 5:36 PM#7

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator. Three questions, and they resolve most disagreements in these threads.

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Sep 12, 2024 at 9:22 PM#8
BenResearch_OR said:
I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. Relative and absolute effects need reading together. A 20% relative reduction on a high baseline risk is a large absolute benefit; the same relative figure on a low baseline risk is a small one, and press summaries almost always quote the relative number because it is bigger.

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Sep 13, 2024 at 1:08 AM#9

Following on from AussieAnna — and this may be the naive question:

How to read a result like this without either dismissing it or over-reading it, since the summaries all read like press releases?

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Sep 13, 2024 at 7:13 PM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Follow-up: I read the paper rather than the summary and the qualifier I was missing was in the second paragraph of the results.

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