🍪 The GLP Lounge uses cookies to improve your experience, analyze traffic, and personalize content. By continuing to use this site, you agree to our Cookie Policy.
Evidence-based GLP-1 & peptide discussion since 2023
ForumsMASH / Liver DiseaseLiver biopsy changes on semaglutide — looking for input Page 2

Liver biopsy changes on semaglutide — looking for input

Dr.GutHealth Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 8:18 AM 29 replies 2,184 viewsPage 2 of 6
Dr.RaviCardio
VIP Member
2,890
15,678
Jan 2024
New York, NY
Oct 20, 2024 at 3:20 AM#6

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. For anyone assembling their own picture: Tmax is one to three days, terminal half-life about 165 to 170 hours, steady state at four to five weeks, and subcutaneous bioavailability near 89%. Those four numbers explain most of the questions people ask about timing.

I would rather be corrected than agreed with, if it comes to it.

40 10pete_manc_UK, anna.melb_AU, mark_tokyo and 37 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
adam_van
Member
212
890
Nov 2024
Vancouver, CA
Oct 20, 2024 at 10:54 AM#7

One thing that is still open after Dr.ObesityLA’s answer:

What the dose-response curve actually looks like above 1.7mg, because the trial means hide how few people account for the extra loss?

Last edited: Oct 20, 2024 at 2:54 PM
39 9Dr.BariatricHTX, LindaRN_retired, tommy_boulder and 36 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
Dr.KarenChen
VIP Member
4,210
24,567
Nov 2023
San Francisco, CA
Oct 20, 2024 at 6:28 PM#8
Dr.RaviCardio said:
For anyone assembling their own picture: Tmax is one to three days, terminal half-life about 165 to 170 hours, steady state at four to five weeks, and…

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. Albumin binding above 99% is the whole reason weekly dosing works, and it is also why the trough matters more than the peak. People who dose late are not losing a peak, they are letting the trough fall, and the appetite effect tracks the trough.

38 8TomFromTexas, mike.trainer_LA, sarah_nash92 and 35 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

Sigma-Aldrich — Research-Grade Standards

Certified reference materials, analytical reagents, and research-grade standards for peptide verification. Trusted by laboratories worldwide.

Shop Reference Standards
Dr.GutHealth
Senior Member
1,456
7,890
Mar 2024
Minnesota
Oct 21, 2024 at 2:02 AM#9

Reporting back.

Update since I posted: I held at 1.7mg for a further twelve weeks and lost another 4kg slowly, which settles it for me. I was escalating because the number was available, not because I had stopped responding.

37 7Dr.RaviCardio, jennifer_SEA, tyler_CSCS and 34 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
Dr.EM_Chicago
Member
567
2,567
May 2024
Chicago, IL
Oct 22, 2024 at 2:19 PM#10
Dr.KarenChen said:
Albumin binding above 99% is the whole reason weekly dosing works, and it is also why the trough matters more than the peak.

No disagreement with Dr.KarenChen. One condition attached. The dose-response is real but shallow at the top. Across STEP 1 and STEP 4 the gap between 1.7mg and 2.4mg is a couple of percentage points of body weight on average, and the average is carrying a wide spread — plenty of people at 1.7mg sit above the 2.4mg mean. If a dose is working and tolerable, "working" is the relevant variable, not "maximal".

29 2lisa_labSD, adam_van, Dr.SurgeonPGH and 26 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

Similar Threads

Survodutide MASH Phase 2b — histological improvement data9 replies
Semaglutide and MASH — liver fat reduction quantification13 replies
Non-invasive MASH biomarkers — FibroScan, ELF, FIB-4 on GLP-110 replies
ALT normalization rates on GLP-1 — pooled trial data20 replies
GLP-1 hepatoprotection — direct vs indirect mechanisms16 replies
ForumsNewTrendingMembersAccount

Log In

Forgot password?
No account? Register