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BPC-157 actually fixed my bad knee?? Is this placebo — what worked for you?

tyler_CSCS Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 10:27 PM 18 replies 2,233 viewsPage 3 of 4
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Jun 26, 2024 at 10:03 PM#11
rachel_ABQ said:
Relative and absolute effects need reading together.

Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. Adding it to my notes with a link back to this thread.

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Jun 27, 2024 at 1:59 AM#12

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

tyler_CSCS said:
...regarding the trial evidence...

I think this is an underappreciated point. To expand on it with some data:

A recent meta-analysis of 18 RCTs (n=15,600) found that the trial evidence was associated with a robust effect size across diverse patient populations[1].

The NNT was 15, which is comparable to antihypertensives for stroke reduction. That's a strong clinical argument for this approach.

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Forest plot interpretation for the the trial evidence meta-analysis: when reading the pooled estimate, pay attention to: Point estimate (HR/RR/OR) —…

Careful with the causal language. Two things moving together in a period when five things changed is not a mechanism, and stating it as one makes the thread less useful to somebody reading it later.

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Jun 27, 2024 at 9:51 AM#14

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. Give anything pharmacological four weeks before you judge it, and give anything measured weekly a four-point rolling average before you call it a trend.

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Jun 27, 2024 at 1:47 PM#15

Moderator note: a post naming a supplier has been edited. Discuss suppliers in the review sections, not here. Report rather than reply if it drifts again.

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