LindaRN_retired said:It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false.
No disagreement, though it depends on where somebody is starting from, and this thread has been assuming a starting point nobody stated.
DerekSJ_a1c said:Hormone panel changes on the hormone panel — relevant for anyone curious about endocrine effects: Testosterone: increased 28% (weight loss reduces…
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. Printing the relevant bit and taking it with me.
LindaRN_retired said:It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false.
This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. Pushing back on the consensus forming here. Consistency is not the same as correctness, and a board that agrees with itself quickly is usually agreeing with the first person who sounded certain.
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Moderator note: leaving this open. It is being argued well and the disagreement is the useful part. Thread quality here is what the rules are for. Keep it up.