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Do the heart benefits go away if I stop taking it? — looking for input

DeniseRN_TPA Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 12:02 AM 45 replies 2,308 viewsPage 3 of 9
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Dr.AddMedPHL said:
SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk.

That reframing is the part I needed. I will report back once I have actually tried it.

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Oct 28, 2024 at 2:06 AM#12

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

6 month update on cardiovascular risk: down 58 lbs, off blood pressure meds, A1C normalized. Genuinely life-changing.

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Dr.LeslieOBGYN said:
Vitamin deficiency cascade with cardiovascular risk: after 6+ months of reduced food intake, I developed a subtle but important pattern: low B12 →…
Dr.LeslieOBGYN said:
...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...

I understand the skepticism — we've all seen "miracle" weight loss solutions come and go. But consider what makes GLP-1 agonists different:

  • Phase 3 RCTs with thousands of participants (not 20-person pilot studies)
  • Published in NEJM, JAMA, Lancet (not press releases)
  • Replicated across multiple independent research groups
  • Proven cardiovascular and renal benefits beyond weight loss
  • Biological mechanism fully characterized at the receptor level

This isn't a fad — it's a new drug class supported by the highest level of clinical evidence. The comparison to past fads is understandable but inappropriate.

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DeniseRN_TPA said:
SELECT is the trial that changed the framing of this class, because it was an outcome trial rather than a weight trial: about a 20% relative reduction…

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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Nov 3, 2024 at 4:48 AM#15

Moderator note: reminder that nothing in this thread is medical advice, and that clinical claims need a source.

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