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NNT for MACE prevention — July 2024

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MeganSA_TX
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Dec 20, 2024 at 9:12 PM#21

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

What would you measure differently if you were starting again?

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Dec 21, 2024 at 11:43 AM#22
tom_AK said:
Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling,…

Mendelian randomization evidence supporting GLP-1 pathway modulation for cardiovascular risk: genetic variants in the GLP1R gene region associated with lower BMI also show associations with reduced cardiovascular risk, confirming a causal pathway[1].

This "natural experiment" (people born with genetically higher GLP-1 signaling being leaner and healthier) provides orthogonal evidence supporting the pharmacological approach. When genetic epidemiology, clinical trials, and mechanistic studies all converge, confidence in the therapeutic approach is high.

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[1] Zheng SL, et al. Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol. 2023;11(12):869-879.
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Dec 22, 2024 at 2:14 AM#23
tom_AK said:
Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling,…

Continuous metabolic monitoring dashboard for cardiovascular risk — I track everything in a spreadsheet and here's the month-over-month trend for my key markers:

Weight: consistent downtrend, -1.9 lbs/week average
Fasting glucose (finger stick): stable at 86 mg/dL
Blood pressure (home): 119/72 average
Resting heart rate: 66 bpm (down from 82)
Waist circumference: down 16 inches total

The resting heart rate improvement correlates with cardiovascular fitness gains. Everything is moving in the right direction.

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Dec 22, 2024 at 4:44 PM#24
tom_AK said:
Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling,…

That reframing is the part I needed.

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Dec 23, 2024 at 7:14 AM#25

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Metabolic syndrome resolution on cardiovascular risk: I went from meeting 4 of 5 diagnostic criteria to meeting ZERO after 12 months of treatment.

The 5 criteria (and my journey):

  1. Waist circumference: 51" → 35" ✅ Resolved
  2. Triglycerides: 265 → 95 ✅ Resolved
  3. HDL: 35 → 57 ✅ Resolved
  4. Blood pressure: 145/91 → 118/72 ✅ Resolved
  5. Fasting glucose: 115 → 87 ✅ Resolved

Metabolic syndrome reversal is, in my view, the most medically significant outcome of GLP-1 therapy.

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