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Tirzepatide cardiovascular safety — looking for input

nancy_portland Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 3:19 PM 36 replies 2,184 viewsPage 4 of 8
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Jan 26, 2025 at 7:08 PM#16
GenomicsKate said:
nancy_portland said: ...we don't know the long-term effects of cardiovascular risk...

Same pattern here, and in the same order. Posting only so the count is not one.

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Jan 26, 2025 at 9:24 PM#17
SleepDoc_PDX said:
SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk.

I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

The SELECT trial demonstrated a 20% reduction in MACE with semaglutide 2.4mg[1]. This is practice-changing because the CV benefit appears to be independent of the degree of weight loss — suggesting direct vascular and anti-inflammatory mechanisms.

For cardiovascular risk, this means we need to think beyond the primary outcome and consider the cardiovascular implications. The all-cause mortality reduction (HR 0.81) is the most clinically meaningful signal.

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[1] Lincoff AM, et al. N Engl J Med. 2023;389(24):2221-2232.
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Jan 26, 2025 at 11:40 PM#18

One thing that is still open after SleepDoc_PDX’s answer:

Whether anyone has held 10mg long term rather than climbing, and what happened over the following year?

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Jan 27, 2025 at 1:57 AM#19
Dr.GutHealth said:
I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

Anti-inflammatory mechanisms of GLP-1 agonists and cardiovascular risk: beyond weight loss, GLP-1R activation directly suppresses NF-κB signaling, reduces NLRP3 inflammasome activation, and decreases monocyte/macrophage adhesion to endothelium[1].

Clinical correlates: hsCRP reduction of 30-60% (consistently seen across trials), reduced carotid intima-media thickness, and decreased coronary plaque inflammation on PET imaging.

These anti-inflammatory effects likely contribute to the cardiovascular benefit seen in SELECT — and may explain benefits beyond what weight loss alone would predict.

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[1] Hogan AE, et al. Diabetologia. 2014;57(4):781-784.
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Jan 27, 2025 at 4:14 AM#20

Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful.

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