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GLP-1 and peripheral arterial disease — anyone have experience?

Dr.DermMIA Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 11:09 PM 7 replies 1,185 viewsPage 2 of 2
Dr.GastroMayo
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Sep 27, 2025 at 10:39 AM#6
Dr.PainCLE said:
Continuous metabolic monitoring dashboard for cardiovascular risk — I track everything in a spreadsheet and here's the month-over-month trend for my…

I read this differently from Dr.PainCLE, on substance rather than tone. The "earlier than weight loss explains" argument is weaker than this thread makes it sound. Blood pressure and inflammatory markers move fast and are downstream of early weight loss, so the mechanism is not as cleanly separable as the summaries imply.

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Sep 27, 2025 at 3:12 PM#7
Dr.DermMIA said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.
Dr.DermMIA said:
...we don't know the long-term effects of cardiovascular risk...

This is a fair point, and I think intellectual honesty requires acknowledging it. GLP-1 agonists in their current form have ~8-10 years of human exposure data. That's not nothing, but it's not 30+ years either.

However: the risk-benefit calculation should also consider the KNOWN long-term effects of untreated obesity — diabetes, cardiovascular disease, cancer, joint destruction, reduced lifespan by 5-10 years.

Uncertainty about GLP-1 long-term safety vs certainty about obesity consequences. The calculus seems clear to me, but reasonable people can disagree.

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Sep 27, 2025 at 7:44 PM#8
Dr.GastroMayo said:
The "earlier than weight loss explains" argument is weaker than this thread makes it sound.

Lp(a) and cardiovascular risk: a nuance that matters. Unlike most lipid markers, Lp(a) is 90%+ genetically determined and doesn't really change with weight loss or GLP-1 therapy.

My Lp(a) has remained at 69 nmol/L across all time points. If yours is elevated (>50 nmol/L), you need additional risk mitigation strategies regardless of your GLP-1 response. Don't assume your medication is covering all cardiovascular risk factors.

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Sep 28, 2025 at 12:16 AM#9

One thing that is still open after JakeBK_lifts’s answer:

What would you measure differently if you were starting again?

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Sep 28, 2025 at 10:03 PM#10
Dr.CardioMD said:
Lp(a) and cardiovascular risk: a nuance that matters.

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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