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Is oral sema actually as effective as the injection version? — looking for input

BiostatsBrad Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 3:35 AM 11 replies 1,970 viewsPage 3 of 3
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Jun 27, 2024 at 8:11 PM#11
PedsEndoPhilly said:
The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to…

That reframing is the part I needed.

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Jun 28, 2024 at 3:11 PM#12

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. It is worth asking what the claim would look like if it were false. If nothing would look different, it is not a claim about the world and no amount of discussion will settle it.

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Jun 29, 2024 at 10:12 AM#13
Dr.PeteFamMed said:
The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.

I read this differently from Dr.PeteFamMed, on substance rather than tone. Pushing back on the anecdote-stacking. Twenty people reporting the same thing is twenty samples from the same self-selected pool, not twenty independent confirmations.

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Jun 30, 2024 at 5:13 AM#14

One concrete data point for the thread. Say what you would expect to see if you were wrong, before you look. It is a small discipline and it changes what you notice.

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Jul 1, 2024 at 12:14 AM#15

Moderator note: the sourcing question belongs in the vendor section and has been split out. Thread quality here is what the rules are for. Keep it up.

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