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What does your shot day routine look like? — my results so far

stefan_berlin Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 2:19 PM 32 replies 2,086 viewsPage 2 of 7
BiostatsBrad
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Jul 9, 2024 at 5:25 PM#6
stefan_berlin said:
Food noise is the best term this community has produced and it describes something the trials did not measure well: the constant background…

The GLP-1 and alcohol use disorder connection, relevant to food noise: observational data from Scandinavian registries shows reduced alcohol-related hospitalizations in GLP-1 agonist users[1].

The mechanism is plausible: GLP-1R is expressed in the mesolimbic reward pathway (VTA, nucleus accumbens). Agonism at these receptors may reduce the reinforcing properties of alcohol, similar to the reduction in "food noise."

RCTs for GLP-1 agonists in AUD are now underway. If positive, this would be a paradigm-shifting repurposing of existing medications.

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[1] Wang W, et al. Nat Med. 2024;30:574-584.
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Jul 9, 2024 at 6:37 PM#7

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Did your prescriber agree with that reading, and if not what was their objection?

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Jul 9, 2024 at 7:49 PM#8
BiostatsBrad said:
The GLP-1 and alcohol use disorder connection, relevant to food noise: observational data from Scandinavian registries shows reduced alcohol-related…

Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation. Real hunger: gradual onset, physical stomach sensation, any food sounds good. Phantom hunger: sudden, emotionally triggered, specific food cravings, occurs right after eating.

The GLP-1 agonist suppresses real hunger beautifully. Phantom hunger still pops up but I can now recognize it for what it is — an emotional signal, not a physical need. Mindfulness training helped enormously with this distinction.

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Jul 9, 2024 at 9:01 PM#9
BiostatsBrad said:
The GLP-1 and alcohol use disorder connection, relevant to food noise: observational data from Scandinavian registries shows reduced alcohol-related…
BiostatsBrad said:
...regarding food noise mechanism of action...

To build on this — the mechanism is more complex than "it makes you less hungry." GLP-1 agonists:

  1. Activate hypothalamic satiety centers (appetite reduction)
  2. Delay gastric emptying (prolonged fullness)
  3. Potentiate glucose-dependent insulin secretion
  4. Suppress glucagon secretion
  5. Modulate reward pathway dopaminergic signaling
  6. Reduce hepatic lipogenesis
  7. Have direct cardiovascular protective effects

It's a multi-target drug with systemic metabolic effects. Understanding the mechanism helps us predict and manage side effects.

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Dr.KarenChen said:
Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation.

Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back. Like a switch flipped. It was eye-opening to feel the difference.

This experience actually reinforced my understanding of what the medication does — it's not just "suppressing appetite," it's normalizing dysregulated hunger signaling. When the drug wears off, you feel the full force of what it was managing.

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