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CryptoCarl Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 5:55 PM 19 replies 2,294 viewsPage 1 of 4
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CryptoCarl
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Feb 22, 2024 at 5:55 PM#1

I reconstituted a 10mg vial with 2ml of bacteriostatic water and I want someone to check my unit arithmetic before I draw anything, because I keep getting two different answers.

The narrow version of the question is how to check the arithmetic without trusting a website calculator, since three calculators gave me three answers.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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julia.endo
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Feb 22, 2024 at 6:02 PM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. Concentration choice is a precision decision, not a preference. Reconstitute high and every dose is a tiny volume where one unit of syringe error is a large fraction of the dose. Reconstitute low and you get more graduations per dose, so the same hand tremor costs proportionally less. Against that, more diluent means more benzyl alcohol and a shorter comfortable in-use window.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 6:09 PM#3
julia.endo said:
Concentration choice is a precision decision, not a preference.

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. The arithmetic is right and one caveat matters: a U-40 syringe changes the markings, not the volumes. If someone hands you U-40 and you read it as U-100 you will be 2.5 times out, and that error has a direction — it is always an overdose.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 6:16 PM#4
CryptoCarl said:
I reconstituted a 10mg vial with 2ml of bacteriostatic water and I want someone to check my unit arithmetic before I draw anything, because I keep…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. Dead space is the answer to the missing dose. A fixed-needle insulin syringe holds a few microlitres in the hub and needle after the plunger bottoms out, and on small draws that is a measurable percentage of every dose. Across ten draws it adds up to most of an eleventh, which is exactly the "nine draws from a ten-dose vial" complaint. Luer-lock syringes are worse; low-dead-space fixed-needle designs are better.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 6:54 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

Quick syringe math for dosing arithmetic dosing: if your vial is reconstituted at 5mg/2mL, that's 2.5mg/mL. For a 0.25mg dose you need 0.1mL = 10 units on an insulin syringe.

I keep a chart on my fridge:

  • 0.25mg = 10 units
  • 0.5mg = 20 units
  • 1.0mg = 40 units
  • 1.25mg = 50 units

Always double-check your concentration before drawing up!

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