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Dr.GutHealth Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 9:09 AM 36 replies 2,800 viewsPage 1 of 8
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Dr.GutHealth
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Mar 22, 2024 at 9:09 AM#1

Read the primary source rather than the write-up and the two do not agree, so here is what is actually in it.

Denials are usually procedural rather than clinical, and the order that works reflects that. Get the denial reason in writing, because it names the criterion you failed. Then supply the documentation that criterion asks for — usually documented BMI with a comorbidity, or a failed prior therapy. Then appeal, and ask for a peer-to-peer review, because a prescriber talking to a reviewing clinician resolves a large fraction of denials that written appeals do not. Manufacturer copay assistance is separate and applies mainly to commercial insurance, and patient assistance programmes are means-tested rather than a discount.

Where I think it is weakest: the subgroup findings are the part I trust least — with enough subgroups something is always significant, and these were not all pre-registered.

The question I want answered is what actually works on a prior-authorisation denial, as opposed to the list of things that sound like they should work. I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

Note on sourcing:
Figures above are from the primary publication rather than the press summary. If a number here disagrees with one you have, post yours and we will work out which of us is reading a secondary source.
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PharmD_Rodriguez
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Mar 22, 2024 at 9:55 AM#2
Dr.GutHealth said:
Denials are usually procedural rather than clinical, and the order that works reflects that.

Financial impact of cost and coverage weight loss beyond medication cost:

  • Groceries: SAVED $277/month (eating less)
  • Restaurants: SAVED $167/month (fewer meals out)
  • Alcohol: SAVED $117/month (stopped drinking)
  • Life insurance: Premium REDUCED by $47/month (lower BMI)
  • Copays: SAVED $57/month (fewer BP/cholesterol meds)

Net impact after medication cost: approximately BREAKING EVEN. The medication pays for itself through reduced food spending and healthcare costs. This surprised me.

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Dr.SportsMedIN
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Mar 22, 2024 at 10:41 AM#3
Dr.GutHealth said:
Denials are usually procedural rather than clinical, and the order that works reflects that.

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. The affordability discussion here usually stops at individual tactics. At list price this class is out of reach for most of the people who would benefit, and no amount of appeal strategy changes that — it is a pricing problem wearing a paperwork costume.

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Mar 22, 2024 at 11:27 AM#4
Dr.SportsMedIN said:
The affordability discussion here usually stops at individual tactics.
Dr.SportsMedIN said:
...compounded vs brand cost and coverage...

This debate comes up weekly and I think both sides have valid points:

Pro-brand: FDA-approved, manufacturing standards guaranteed, clinical trial data directly applicable

Pro-compounded: 10x cost savings, same active molecule, independent testing available, accessibility

My position: if you can afford brand or have insurance coverage, that's the gold standard. If not, properly tested compounded from a 503B pharmacy is a reasonable alternative. Neither side should shame the other.

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Mar 22, 2024 at 3:47 PM#5
PharmD_Rodriguez said:
Financial impact of cost and coverage weight loss beyond medication cost: Groceries: SAVED $277/month (eating less) Restaurants: SAVED $167/month…

Same experience, arrived at from the opposite direction. I had assumed I was the exception until I read this.

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