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Dose-response curves — need advice

Dr.PulmRoch Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 12:40 AM 8 replies 1,746 viewsPage 2 of 2
Dr.CardioMD
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Sep 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM#6
PeptideChemSF said:
The trials generally allowed a step to be held or reduced and then retried, and people who did that mostly arrived at the same place a few weeks…

I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability. The maintenance and regain data cluster at the top doses, so a ladder abandoned halfway leaves you outside the evidence base for the part that matters most — keeping it off.

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Dr.PulmRoch said:
Four dose steps in, holding each one the full four weeks, and I am trying to work out whether the interval is a pharmacological requirement or a…

Dose escalation anxiety for titration: I was terrified to move from 0.5mg to 1.0mg based on horror stories in this forum. But my actual experience? Slightly more appetite suppression, zero additional side effects.

Remember that the people posting about terrible side effects are a biased sample. Most people titrate up without drama — they just don't post about it because it's uneventful.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 6:07 PM#8
Dr.CardioMD said:
I disagree that the ladder is purely tolerability.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. The version of this that has an answer is narrower than the version being asked. Narrow it and it becomes tractable; leave it broad and the thread will produce nine confident and incompatible replies.

If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 9:58 PM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

What the trials actually did with participants who could not tolerate a step, because that is the situation I am in and the protocol summaries skip it?

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Sep 25, 2024 at 4:26 PM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

I held the step an extra three weeks instead of stepping back down, and it settled. Same dose, same everything, just more time — which is exactly what was suggested upthread.

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