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Incretin effect in healthy vs T2DM — 12 month update

marco_milano Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 2:49 AM 28 replies 1,548 viewsPage 2 of 6
Dr.ObesityLA
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Oct 20, 2025 at 6:40 AM#6
KevinCompounds said:
Glycemic variability as the key metric for glycaemic control success: my coefficient of variation (CV) on CGM dropped from 35% to 20%.

Fasting insulin is the lab my functional medicine doctor cares about most for glycaemic control: it's a much earlier marker of metabolic dysfunction than glucose or A1C.

My fasting insulin: 30 → 14 → 5 uIU/mL over 9 months. Target is <7. By the time your fasting glucose is elevated, your insulin has been elevated for YEARS trying to compensate.

Ask your doctor to include fasting insulin in your bloodwork panel. It's cheap (~$20) and incredibly informative.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 8:10 AM#7
marco_milano said:
A1C went from 7.4 to 5.6 over nine months and my prescriber was more interested in the fasting insulin, which I did not expect.

PCOS success story with glycaemic control: as someone with polycystic ovary syndrome, this medication has been transformative beyond weight loss.

After 7 months: periods became regular for the first time in years, testosterone levels normalized, acne cleared significantly, and — unexpectedly — I got pregnant naturally after 4 years of trying.

GLP-1 agonists address the insulin resistance at the root of PCOS. For PCOS patients, this isn't "just" a weight loss drug — it's treating our underlying metabolic dysfunction.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 9:40 AM#8
Dr.ObesityLA said:
Fasting insulin is the lab my functional medicine doctor cares about most for glycaemic control: it's a much earlier marker of metabolic dysfunction…

Patient selection optimization for glycaemic control: emerging predictive biomarkers for GLP-1 agonist response include:

BiomarkerAssociationEvidence Level
Baseline BMIHigher BMI → greater absolute weight lossStrong
Fasting insulinHigher insulin → better responseModerate
GLP1R gene variantsrs6923761 → variable responsePreliminary
Baseline hsCRPHigher CRP → greater CV benefitModerate
Early weight loss (4 wk)≥3% at 4 wks → strong predictor of ≥10% at 68 wksStrong

The 4-week early responder criterion is the most clinically actionable: if you haven't lost ≥3% by week 4 at a therapeutic dose, discuss optimization strategies with your provider.

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Oct 20, 2025 at 11:11 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Was that from a primary source or from a summary of one?

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Oct 20, 2025 at 6:26 PM#10
Dr.EM_Chicago said:
Patient selection optimization for glycaemic control: emerging predictive biomarkers for GLP-1 agonist response include: Biomarker Association…

My labs after 12 months on glycaemic control: A1C 6.1%, fasting glucose 86 mg/dL, fasting insulin 9 uIU/mL. My endo says these are "textbook perfect."

For context, my baseline A1C was 6.7% and fasting glucose was 121 mg/dL. The improvement has been dramatic and consistent.

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