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Compounded sema dosing calculator — what worked for you?

alex_tucson Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 5:29 PM 15 replies 1,958 viewsPage 1 of 3
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alex_tucson
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Nov 23, 2024 at 5:29 PM#1

My pharmacy stopped supplying with three weeks notice and a letter that explained nothing, so I went and read the statute.

Two things anyone can check: a state licence number for a 503A, and an FDA outsourcing-facility registration for a 503B. Both are publicly searchable, and a pharmacy unwilling to give you either has answered the question.

The narrow version of the question is what actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Nov 23, 2024 at 7:20 PM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. Resolution therefore closed the doors unevenly, and the asymmetry follows from the bulks lists. For 503B the shortage clause was the only route to these molecules, so that route shut completely. A 503A pharmacy can still argue a doorway via "component of an approved drug" — but only for the substance in the form present in the approved product, which is exactly where the base-versus-salt argument lives, and it does nothing about the copy restriction, which came back into force on resolution.

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Nov 23, 2024 at 9:11 PM#3
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
Resolution therefore closed the doors unevenly, and the asymmetry follows from the bulks lists.

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. Worth adding the genuine exception, because it is real and narrow: a change made for an identified patient where the prescriber determines it produces a significant clinical difference for that patient. A grid of fixed doses offered to everybody is not that, whatever the intake form says.

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Nov 23, 2024 at 11:02 PM#4
alex_tucson said:
My pharmacy stopped supplying with three weeks notice and a letter that explained nothing, so I went and read the statute.

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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Nov 24, 2024 at 9:58 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

GMP compliance checklist relevant to compounded supply compounding quality:

  • Clean room environment with HEPA filtration
  • Environmental monitoring (viable and non-viable)
  • Personnel training and competency assessment
  • Validated analytical methods for testing
  • Stability testing program
  • Complete batch records and traceability
  • Quality management system with deviation handling

A 503B pharmacy following cGMP should be able to answer questions about ALL of these if you ask. Don't be afraid to ask — it's your health.

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