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The 30g protein per meal myth — need advice

ZaraB_AL Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 3:19 PM 9 replies 2,128 viewsPage 1 of 2
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ZaraB_AL
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Jan 24, 2024 at 3:19 PM#1

My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat more.

The narrow version of the question is how people are hitting a protein target on a genuinely suppressed appetite, because volume is the binding constraint rather than willingness.

Numbers rather than impressions, if you have them.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 4:01 PM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie. Isolate powders, Greek yoghurt and cottage cheese, egg whites, lean fish, and tinned tuna all deliver a lot of protein in a small physical volume. Front-load it: appetite is usually least suppressed in the first hours after waking and worst on the day or two after dosing, so get the majority in early in the day and early in the week.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 4:43 PM#3
JennaRN said:
On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie.

True, and anyone with reduced kidney function needs that target set by a clinician rather than a forum. High protein is safe in normal kidneys and is not automatically safe in impaired ones.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 5:25 PM#4
ZaraB_AL said:
My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why. 0.8 g/kg is the intake at which nitrogen balance is not negative in healthy weight-stable adults — a floor for deficiency prevention, not an optimum, and derived in a population that is not in a deficit. In a substantial energy deficit, protein requirement rises because amino acids are being oxidised for energy and because muscle protein synthesis is blunted. The literature on preserving lean mass during weight loss lands around 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, which is roughly two to two and a half times the RDA.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 9:19 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

DEXA scan update relevant to protein intake:

Scanned at months 0, 6, and 12. Here are the body comp numbers:

BaselineMonth 6Month 12
Total mass282 lbs227 lbs209 lbs
Fat mass112 lbs82 lbs44 lbs
Lean mass150 lbs149 lbs156 lbs
Body fat %43%35%23%

Lean mass preserved — actually GAINED 1-2 lbs thanks to progressive overload + 1.6g/kg protein. The protein intake discussion needs to include body comp data, not just scale weight.

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