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Meal prep for nausea days — looking for input

fiona_VT Thu, May 30, 2024 at 7:35 PM 36 replies 2,716 viewsPage 1 of 8
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fiona_VT
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May 30, 2024 at 7:35 PM#1

The nausea I get is not really nausea, it is an aversion. Food I want in the abstract becomes repellent in front of me, which no side-effect list describes.

Trial-level incidence runs roughly 20 to 25% for nausea at the higher dose tiers and 12 to 17% for diarrhoea, with most events mild to moderate and concentrated in the weeks after each escalation.

So the question, as narrowly as I can put it: what distinguishes the nausea you can titrate through from the nausea that means stop.

Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.

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May 30, 2024 at 7:52 PM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. The practical protocol is dull and it works: smaller meals, stop eating at the first sign of fullness rather than at the end of the plate, drop the fat fraction of meals in the two days after dosing, and do not lie down straight after eating. Most of what people call unmanageable nausea is a meal-size and meal-composition problem interacting with a stomach that is emptying slowly.

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May 30, 2024 at 8:09 PM#3
BethLabQueen said:
The practical protocol is dull and it works: smaller meals, stop eating at the first sign of fullness rather than at the end of the plate, drop the…

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. The meal advice is right and incomplete without the hydration point. People stop drinking because drinking makes them feel full, then attribute dehydration symptoms to the drug.

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May 30, 2024 at 8:26 PM#4
fiona_VT said:
The nausea I get is not really nausea, it is an aversion.

Can confirm the pattern fiona_VT describes. Holding genuinely reduces total burden rather than redistributing it, because the gastric-emptying component adapts. Receptor-level tachyphylaxis to the delayed-emptying effect develops over weeks while the central appetite effect persists, so the same dose is materially more comfortable at week six than at week two. A slower ladder therefore reaches the same dose with less cumulative nausea, not the same nausea spread thinner.

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May 30, 2024 at 9:55 PM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly. The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either. Those three things can all be true at once, and most arguments here are two people holding different parts of that.

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