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Keto vs Mediterranean vs high-protein — January 2024

nick_newbie Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 8:54 AM 9 replies 1,538 viewsPage 1 of 2
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Feb 11, 2025 at 8:54 AM#1

My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat more.

The narrow version of the question is whether the RDA is the wrong reference entirely during rapid weight loss, and what the actual target should be.

I have searched first, so if this is covered somewhere point me at it and I will read it.

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Feb 11, 2025 at 9:00 AM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. Distribution matters less than total but it is not nothing. Roughly 25 to 40g per sitting with enough leucine to trigger synthesis, three or four times a day, is more effective than the same total in one enormous evening meal — and on a suppressed appetite the enormous evening meal is the one you will not finish anyway.

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Feb 11, 2025 at 9:06 AM#3
MikeFit_NJ said:
Distribution matters less than total but it is not nothing.

Agreed on the target, with the caveat that reference weight and current weight are different numbers. Using current weight at the start of a large loss produces a target that is both unachievable and unnecessary.

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Feb 11, 2025 at 9:12 AM#4
nick_newbie said:
My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie. Isolate powders, Greek yoghurt and cottage cheese, egg whites, lean fish, and tinned tuna all deliver a lot of protein in a small physical volume. Front-load it: appetite is usually least suppressed in the first hours after waking and worst on the day or two after dosing, so get the majority in early in the day and early in the week.

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Feb 11, 2025 at 9:42 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

DEXA scan update relevant to protein intake:

Scanned at months 0, 6, and 12. Here are the body comp numbers:

BaselineMonth 6Month 12
Total mass245 lbs240 lbs202 lbs
Fat mass105 lbs65 lbs52 lbs
Lean mass158 lbs148 lbs149 lbs
Body fat %38%34%21%

Lean mass preserved — actually GAINED 1-2 lbs thanks to progressive overload + 1.5g/kg protein. The protein intake discussion needs to include body comp data, not just scale weight.

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