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Smoothie recipes thread — need advice

CanadaChris Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 12:55 AM 10 replies 1,573 viewsPage 1 of 2
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CanadaChris
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Mar 5, 2025 at 12:55 AM#1

My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat more.

What I am after is how people are hitting a protein target on a genuinely suppressed appetite, because volume is the binding constraint rather than willingness.

If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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Dr.RenalNash
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Mar 5, 2025 at 1:04 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why. 0.8 g/kg is the intake at which nitrogen balance is not negative in healthy weight-stable adults — a floor for deficiency prevention, not an optimum, and derived in a population that is not in a deficit. In a substantial energy deficit, protein requirement rises because amino acids are being oxidised for energy and because muscle protein synthesis is blunted. The literature on preserving lean mass during weight loss lands around 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, which is roughly two to two and a half times the RDA.

That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.

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Mar 5, 2025 at 1:13 AM#3
Dr.RenalNash said:
The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why.

Agreed on the target, with the caveat that reference weight and current weight are different numbers. Using current weight at the start of a large loss produces a target that is both unachievable and unnecessary.

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Mar 5, 2025 at 1:22 AM#4
CanadaChris said:
My appetite is suppressed enough that hitting a protein target is now the hardest part of the day, and everything I read assumes I can simply eat…

Can confirm the pattern CanadaChris describes. Distribution matters less than total but it is not nothing. Roughly 25 to 40g per sitting with enough leucine to trigger synthesis, three or four times a day, is more effective than the same total in one enormous evening meal — and on a suppressed appetite the enormous evening meal is the one you will not finish anyway.

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Mar 5, 2025 at 2:08 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

DEXA scan update relevant to protein intake:

Scanned at months 0, 6, and 12. Here are the body comp numbers:

BaselineMonth 6Month 12
Total mass283 lbs213 lbs220 lbs
Fat mass123 lbs83 lbs55 lbs
Lean mass161 lbs154 lbs157 lbs
Body fat %44%34%24%

Lean mass preserved — actually GAINED 1-2 lbs thanks to progressive overload + 1.5g/kg protein. The protein intake discussion needs to include body comp data, not just scale weight.

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