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My vendor COA looks sketchy - can someone take a look — anyone have experience?

BethLabQueen Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:37 AM 12 replies 2,137 viewsPage 2 of 3
CarlaRPh_TPA
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Feb 23, 2024 at 5:42 AM#6
mike.trainer_LA said:
The useful checklist is about verifiability rather than presentation.

I disagree that testing history is decisive. It tells you what a supplier did when they were being watched. Continuity of behaviour under stress — a late shipment, a failed test, a complaint — is more predictive than any run of good results.

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Feb 23, 2024 at 2:30 PM#7

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. The four things to check on any report, in order: does it name your batch, who commissioned it, what method was used, and does it report content as well as purity. A report failing any of those is weak evidence regardless of the percentage on it.

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Feb 23, 2024 at 11:18 PM#8
CarlaRPh_TPA said:
I disagree that testing history is decisive.

Coming at CarlaRPh_TPA’s question from a different direction. The provenance questions are more useful than the numbers. Does the report name the batch on your vial. Is the date consistent with when that batch existed. Is it addressed to the vendor or to the person who paid for the test. Was the sample taken from general stock or supplied by the vendor. A perfect certificate for a different batch is worth nothing, and vendor-supplied samples are the most common way a genuine report ends up misleading.

Worth separating that from certificates of analysis, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.

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Feb 24, 2024 at 8:06 AM#9

One thing that is still open after Dr.GastroMayo’s answer:

What a vetting checklist should actually contain, as opposed to a list of things that are easy to fake?

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Feb 26, 2024 at 2:22 AM#10

Reporting back.

Went back through my own correspondence with an earlier supplier and the warning signs were all there in the replies, weeks before the quality changed. I was reading the product and not the behaviour.

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