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COA database project — my results so far

nick_SD_fit Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 6:08 AM 13 replies 2,095 viewsPage 2 of 3
FDA_TrackerJim
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Jun 26, 2024 at 7:39 AM#6
nick_SD_fit said:
Inter-laboratory variation comes from real methodological differences, not sloppiness: which reference standard was used and how it was itself…

Third-party testing services for certificates of analysis besides Janoshik:

  • Janoshik: Gold standard for peptide community, ~$134, 10-14 day turnaround
  • Valitech: US-based, ISO 17025 accredited, ~$224
  • Eurofins: Full pharmaceutical testing suite, more expensive but comprehensive
  • ChemTox: Basic identity and purity testing, ~$114

Janoshik is the community standard but any ISO-accredited analytical lab can verify peptide identity and purity. The key is independence — don't rely solely on the vendor's own testing.

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MikeNYC_runner
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Jun 26, 2024 at 8:14 AM#7

One thing that is still open after Dr.SportsMedIN’s answer:

Whether a purity figure and a content figure can disagree without one of them being wrong?

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Jun 26, 2024 at 8:49 AM#8
FDA_TrackerJim said:
Third-party testing services for certificates of analysis besides Janoshik: Janoshik: Gold standard for peptide community, ~$134, 10-14 day turnaround…

Reconstituted peptide stability data for certificates of analysis: I had Janoshik test my reconstituted vial at day 1, day 14, and day 28 stored in the refrigerator.

Day 1: 100.7% purity
Day 14: 99.0% purity
Day 28: 97.3% purity

Minimal degradation over 28 days when properly refrigerated. This confirms the standard 28-day beyond-use date is appropriate. Beyond 28 days, I'd reconstitute a fresh vial to be safe.

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Jun 26, 2024 at 9:24 AM#9

Closing the loop on my own question.

Purity and content being different measurements was the piece I was missing. The vial was overfilled and pure, which is a very different problem from the one I thought I had.

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Jun 26, 2024 at 12:14 PM#10
sean_dublin said:
Reconstituted peptide stability data for certificates of analysis: I had Janoshik test my reconstituted vial at day 1, day 14, and day 28 stored in…

No disagreement with sean_dublin. One condition attached. One addition: an unstated method makes a report close to uninterpretable. "99% pure" without the technique, the standard and the conditions is a claim, not a measurement.

I would rather be corrected than agreed with, if it comes to it.

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