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Paid for independent testing and results did not match vendor COA — looking for input

LarryQC_SD Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 10:18 PM 16 replies 1,934 viewsPage 3 of 4
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Dec 7, 2024 at 9:56 PM#11
Dr.PeteFamMed said:
They are not contradictory, they measure different things, and this is the single most common misreading of a certificate.

Agreed, and mass spec answers a question purity does not: identity. High purity tells you one thing dominates the chromatogram, not that it is the molecule you ordered. A mass within about a dalton of expected is the identity check.

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Dec 9, 2024 at 4:52 AM#12
Dr.SleepRoch said:
Right, and one flattering data point from a group buy is not consistency.

This answered a question I did not know how to ask.

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Dec 10, 2024 at 11:48 AM#13
Dr.PeteFamMed said:
They are not contradictory, they measure different things, and this is the single most common misreading of a certificate.

I am more sceptical of certificates as a category than this thread is. The document tells you about a sample somebody chose to send, at a moment in time, and nothing about the vial in your hand. Independent purchase-and-test is a different quality of evidence and everything else is inference.

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LarryQC_SD said:
Six orders from the same supplier over eight months, every one independently tested, and the consistency is the part worth reporting rather than any…

Vendor reputation tracking for vendor vetting: I maintain a personal spreadsheet with every order I've placed — date, vendor, batch number, Janoshik result, personal efficacy assessment (1-5 scale), and any issues.

After 18 orders across 3 vendors: average purity 97.2%, zero sterility concerns, 1 shipping issues (all resolved). This data gives me confidence in my current source and documentation if issues arise.

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Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful. Thread quality here is what the rules are for. Keep it up.

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