Face gains thread — looking for input

TrialNerd_Beth said:

Genuine plateaus happen too, and the mechanism is metabolic adaptation plus a smaller body.

Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them.

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice. Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion. Almost every disagreement here turns out to be two people measuring different things and comparing the numbers anyway.

anna.melb_AU said:

It helps to ask what evidence would change your mind before you look at any.

Careful with the causal language. Two things moving together in a period when five things changed is not a mechanism, and stating it as one makes the thread less useful to somebody reading it later.

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. Give anything pharmacological four weeks before you judge it, and give anything measured weekly a four-point rolling average before you call it a trend.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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