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My trainer has no idea what GLP-1 is and it shows — need advice

mia_MS2 Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 11:51 PM 12 replies 2,278 viewsPage 2 of 3
Dr.NutriCornell
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Jan 24, 2024 at 12:04 PM#6
LibrarianMeg said:
The intervention that works is boring and well evidenced: resistance training two to three times a week at a genuine effort, protein at 1.4 to 2.0…

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. I think this board over-worries about lean mass. Some lean loss is obligatory — you need less muscle to move a smaller body, and preserving mass you no longer need is not a health outcome. The question is whether strength and function held, and mine did.

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Jan 24, 2024 at 4:54 PM#7
mia_MS2 said:
Two DEXA scans eleven months apart: down 24kg total, of which the scan says 6kg was lean.

Muscle fiber type changes during GLP-1-mediated weight loss, relevant to lean mass: preliminary biopsy data suggests that weight loss shifts the skeletal muscle fiber type distribution:

  • Decreased Type IIx (glycolytic, fast-twitch) fibers
  • Increased Type I (oxidative, slow-twitch) fibers
  • Improved mitochondrial density and function
  • Enhanced insulin-stimulated glucose uptake per fiber

This "metabolic remodeling" of muscle may contribute to improved insulin sensitivity independent of total lean mass changes. The muscle you keep becomes metabolically better, even if there's less of it[1].

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[1] Pirkmajer S, et al. Front Physiol. 2023;14:1123456.
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Jan 24, 2024 at 9:44 PM#8
Dr.NutriCornell said:
I think this board over-worries about lean mass.

Physical therapist weighing in on lean mass. I work with bariatric and metabolic patients daily.

The resistance training evidence is critical here:

The Lundgren 2024 JAMA paper[1] showed that structured resistance training preserved 73% more lean mass in GLP-1 patients vs medication alone. When discussing lean mass, we MUST include the exercise component.

My minimum prescription: 3x/week compound movements (squat, deadlift, press, row), progressive overload, 7-10K steps/day, and 1.2-1.6g protein/kg/day.

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[1] Lundgren JR, et al. JAMA. 2024;331(1):38-48.
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Jan 25, 2024 at 2:34 AM#9

Following on from Dr.SurgeonPGH — and this may be the naive question:

Whether resistance training and protein change the ratio or only the absolute amount?

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Jan 26, 2024 at 1:49 AM#10

Closing the loop on my own question.

Second scan under matched conditions, six months apart, same time of day: the lean number came back nearly a kilo higher than the panic scan. Strength was up throughout.

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