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Hepatic steatosis grading on ultrasound — 6 month update

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Jun 14, 2024 at 10:47 PM#11
Dr.PainCLE said:
There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

That holds where the measurement is reliable. Where it is noisy — and a lot of what gets tracked here is noisy — the same reasoning produces confident nonsense.

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roxy_nash said:
Liver ultrasound comparison for liver and MASH: my hepatologist ordered serial ultrasounds to track NAFLD regression.

Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. I will report back once I have actually tried it.

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Jun 16, 2024 at 10:37 PM#13
Dr.PainCLE said:
There is a difference between no evidence and evidence of no effect, and this subject is one where the two get swapped freely in both directions.

Worth saying that the confident version of this is more useful to the person writing it than to the person reading it.

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Jun 17, 2024 at 10:31 PM#14

One concrete data point for the thread. If you are comparing against somebody else’s result, check that you are comparing the same measurement taken the same way. Most of the apparent contradictions in these threads dissolve at that step.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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