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Alcohol + MASH + GLP-1 — 6 month update

matt_MKE Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 11:39 PM 13 replies 1,673 viewsPage 1 of 3
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matt_MKE
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Mar 26, 2025 at 11:39 PM#1

Alcohol simply stopped appealing, which I did not expect and which has been more socially complicated than the weight loss.

What I am after is whether the change in tolerance is the smaller stomach, the smaller body, or something central, and whether it settles.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Mar 27, 2025 at 12:17 AM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. The liver data is among the strongest non-weight findings in the class. The semaglutide MASH programme reported a large advantage over placebo on MASH resolution, with a substantial minority also achieving fibrosis improvement — and fibrosis is the endpoint that predicts outcomes. Mechanistically it is reduced hepatic lipogenesis, increased fatty-acid oxidation, less hepatic inflammation, and possibly a direct effect on stellate-cell activation.

If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.

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Mar 27, 2025 at 12:55 AM#3
JennaRN said:
The liver data is among the strongest non-weight findings in the class.

Agreed, and ALT falling is not the same as fibrosis improving. Enzymes are a crude proxy; FIB-4 or elastography is what tells you about the thing that matters.

If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.

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Mar 27, 2025 at 1:33 AM#4
matt_MKE said:
Alcohol simply stopped appealing, which I did not expect and which has been more socially complicated than the weight loss.

Same pattern here, and in the same order.

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Mar 27, 2025 at 5:02 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. Whatever the answer turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, and invite the correction. That is slower than asserting, and it is the only version that survives being wrong.

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