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My liver enzyme journey — need advice

james_edin Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 9:12 AM 17 replies 1,791 viewsPage 3 of 4
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Apr 12, 2025 at 7:14 AM#11
pete_nash said:
ATTAIN trial (survodutide) context for liver and MASH: survodutide, a GLP-1/glucagon dual agonist, showed -18.7% body weight at 46 weeks in the Phase…

Saving this. It is the first explanation that did not require me to already understand it.

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Apr 12, 2025 at 5:06 PM#12

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads. Whatever the answer turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, and invite the correction. That is slower than asserting, and it is the only version that survives being wrong.

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Apr 13, 2025 at 2:57 AM#13
paige_pharma said:
NASH/MAFLD therapeutic landscape and liver and MASH: GLP-1 agonists are emerging as potential first-line NASH therapy.

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. The objection nobody has made: this only works if the measurement is doing what we assume it is doing, and that assumption has not been tested here.

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Apr 13, 2025 at 12:48 PM#14

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. Give anything pharmacological four weeks before you judge it, and give anything measured weekly a four-point rolling average before you call it a trend.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Apr 13, 2025 at 10:39 PM#15

Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful.

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