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Wegovy vs Ozempic: same molecule, different indications and pricing — anyone have experience?

jason_sac26 Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 8:46 PM 12 replies 1,974 viewsPage 2 of 3
PeptideChemSF
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Oct 7, 2024 at 12:10 PM#6

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. Worth knowing that the injection site changes very little. Abdomen, thigh and upper arm are bioequivalent for semaglutide, so a site change is not a plausible explanation for a bad week.

Happy to go further on any of that.

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Oct 7, 2024 at 6:16 PM#7

One thing that is still open after Dr.MetabolicMD’s answer:

What the dose-response curve actually looks like above 1.7mg, because the trial means hide how few people account for the extra loss?

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Oct 8, 2024 at 12:22 AM#8
PeptideChemSF said:
Worth knowing that the injection site changes very little.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central. GLP-1 receptor agonism in the arcuate nucleus stimulates POMC neurons and suppresses AgRP/NPY signalling, which is why the effect is appetite and food salience rather than physical fullness. Delayed gastric emptying largely tachyphylaxes over the first months; the appetite effect does not.

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Oct 8, 2024 at 6:29 AM#9

Reporting back.

Update. I did go to 2.4mg in the end, and the honest report is that it bought me less than the step before it and cost me two bad weeks. Worth knowing rather than worth repeating.

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Oct 9, 2024 at 11:49 AM#10
MASHdoc_SA said:
The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central.

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. Albumin binding above 99% is the whole reason weekly dosing works, and it is also why the trough matters more than the peak. People who dose late are not losing a peak, they are letting the trough fall, and the appetite effect tracks the trough.

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