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Has anyone dealt with ghk-cu copper peptide?

LondonLisa Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 2:37 PM 14 replies 1,902 viewsPage 2 of 3
kate.chem
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Dec 6, 2024 at 8:07 AM#6
Dr.PeteFamMed said:
I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%), creating a depot effect with a ~168-hour half-life enabling weekly dosing[1].

Tirzepatide is a dual GIP/GLP-1R agonist with higher GIP affinity (5:1 GIP:GLP-1 potency ratio). The GIP component may enhance beta-cell function and adipocyte lipid metabolism beyond what GLP-1 alone achieves.

For the pharmacology, the pharmacology explains the clinical differences between these agents.

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[1] Lau J, et al. J Med Chem. 2015;58(18):7370-7380.
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Dec 6, 2024 at 3:05 PM#7
LondonLisa said:
I went looking for why the dosing schedule is what it is and found that almost every practical question on this board has a pharmacokinetic answer…

PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing. Semaglutide:

  • Tmax: 24-72 hours post-injection
  • T½: ~168 hours (7 days) — enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state: reached at 4-5 weeks
  • Bioavailability (SubQ): ~89%
  • Volume of distribution: ~12.5L (primarily plasma)

The albumin binding (>99%) is the key pharmacological innovation — creating a sustained-release effect from a single injection. Previous GLP-1 agonists (exenatide) required BID dosing due to rapid clearance.

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Dec 6, 2024 at 10:03 PM#8
kate.chem said:
Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%),…

Semaglutide structural biology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a 31-amino acid peptide with 94% homology to native GLP-1(7-36). Three key modifications enable its pharmacokinetic profile:

  1. Aib8 substitution: DPP-4 resistance (prevents enzymatic degradation)
  2. Arg34 substitution: improved chemical stability
  3. C18 fatty diacid at Lys26: albumin binding → long half-life

These three modifications transform a peptide with a 2-minute half-life (native GLP-1) into one with a 168-hour half-life (semaglutide). A masterclass in peptide engineering.

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Dec 7, 2024 at 5:01 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How long did you give it before you decided it was working?

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Dec 8, 2024 at 2:27 PM#10

Reporting back.

Closing this out: the trough rather than the peak explains the pattern I was seeing on day six, which I had been blaming on the vial.

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