Dr.ObesityMed said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
No disagreement, though it depends on where somebody is starting from, and this thread has been assuming a starting point nobody stated.
BrianDallas92 said:Pet owner bonus of training: my dog is also losing weight because we're walking 2-3x more than before.
Thank you — that is the clearest version of this I have read, and I have read a lot of them.
Dr.ObesityMed said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. I think the framing smuggles in the conclusion. Ask it the other way round and the obvious answer reverses, which usually means the question is doing the work.
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Moderator note: reminder that nothing in this thread is medical advice, and that clinical claims need a source. Tagging this one for the weekly digest.