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Monero vs Lightning Network for pharmacy payments — November 2025

hans_munich Sat, May 16, 2026 at 11:46 PM 9 replies 442 viewsPage 1 of 2
hans_munich
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May 16, 2026 at 11:46 PM#1

This is the version of the explanation I wish somebody had given me, written down before I forget what confused me. It is about paying for it, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.

What is actually established

The trade-off is reversibility against privacy and there is no option that gives you both. Card payments are reversible and disclose the most; crypto discloses least and is irreversible, which is precisely why pressure toward it is a warning sign when it comes from a seller rather than a buyer. Escrow only means anything where the escrow agent is independent of both parties, which is rarely the case in practice.

The condition it depends on

One detail people underrate: an irreversible payment removes your only leverage in a dispute, so it should be the last step rather than the first.

What I am not sure about

The narrow version of the question is how people are thinking about the trade-off between reversibility and privacy, because you cannot have both. If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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May 17, 2026 at 12:00 AM#2
hans_munich said:
The trade-off is reversibility against privacy and there is no option that gives you both.

That holds where the measurement is reliable. Where it is noisy — and a lot of what gets tracked here is noisy — the same reasoning produces confident nonsense.

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May 17, 2026 at 12:14 AM#3
hans_munich said:
The trade-off is reversibility against privacy and there is no option that gives you both.

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. This treats a plausible mechanism as a demonstrated one. Plausible is where you start looking, not where you stop.

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May 17, 2026 at 12:28 AM#4

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The version of this that has an answer is narrower than the version being asked. Narrow it and it becomes tractable; leave it broad and the thread will produce nine confident and incompatible replies.

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May 17, 2026 at 1:42 AM#5
Dr.RaviCardio said:
That holds where the measurement is reliable.

Can confirm. Same sequence, different timescale.

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