This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. The dose-response is real but shallow at the top. Across STEP 1 and STEP 4 the gap between 1.7mg and 2.4mg is a couple of percentage points of body weight on average, and the average is carrying a wide spread — plenty of people at 1.7mg sit above the 2.4mg mean. If a dose is working and tolerable, "working" is the relevant variable, not "maximal".
I moved from brand to compounded semaglutide at the same nominal dose and cannot decide whether what changed is the material, my titration, or my expectations.
Worth knowing that the injection site changes very little. Abdomen, thigh and upper arm are bioequivalent for semaglutide, so a site change is not a plausible explanation for a bad week.
What I actually want to know is what the dose-response curve actually looks like above 1.7mg, because the trial means hide how few people account for the extra loss.
Not looking for reassurance. Looking for the part I have got wrong.
PharmD_Rodriguez said:The dose-response is real but shallow at the top.
Agreeing with PharmD_Rodriguez, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. Steady state is the thing most people miss. The terminal half-life is about a week, so every dose step takes four to five weeks to fully express itself. Judging a step at day ten is judging the ascent, not the plateau, and it is the single commonest reason people escalate before they needed to.
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View ResultsCanadaChris said:I moved from brand to compounded semaglutide at the same nominal dose and cannot decide whether what changed is the material, my titration, or my…
Agreed, though "tolerable" needs defining. A dose you tolerate by eating almost nothing is not tolerated, it is being paid for somewhere else — usually in lean mass, sometimes in adherence three months later.
If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.
From the other side of the consultation, briefly.
CanadaChris said:...but the FDA says semaglutide...
Interesting point. I want to add some regulatory nuance: the FDA labeling reflects the specific clinical trial data submitted for approval. Real-world clinical practice often extends beyond the FDA label based on emerging evidence and clinical judgment.
Example: semaglutide was first approved for diabetes (Ozempic), then obesity (Wegovy). The molecule didn't change — our understanding of its applications expanded. Similarly, semaglutide may evolve as more data accumulates.