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Has anyone dealt with blood pressure reduction mechanisms on glp-1?

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Dr.KarenChen
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Jul 28, 2024 at 12:50 PM#21
lisa_labSD said:
CRP reduction on cardiovascular risk — this is the lab result that excites me most: Baseline hsCRP: 7.0 mg/L (high cardiovascular risk) Month 6 hsCRP:…
lisa_labSD said:
...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...

I understand the skepticism — we've all seen "miracle" weight loss solutions come and go. But consider what makes GLP-1 agonists different:

  • Phase 3 RCTs with thousands of participants (not 20-person pilot studies)
  • Published in NEJM, JAMA, Lancet (not press releases)
  • Replicated across multiple independent research groups
  • Proven cardiovascular and renal benefits beyond weight loss
  • Biological mechanism fully characterized at the receptor level

This isn't a fad — it's a new drug class supported by the highest level of clinical evidence. The comparison to past fads is understandable but inappropriate.

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Jul 29, 2024 at 9:00 PM#22
lisa_labSD said:
CRP reduction on cardiovascular risk — this is the lab result that excites me most: Baseline hsCRP: 7.0 mg/L (high cardiovascular risk) Month 6 hsCRP:…

I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

The SELECT trial demonstrated a 20% reduction in MACE with semaglutide 2.4mg[1]. This is practice-changing because the CV benefit appears to be independent of the degree of weight loss — suggesting direct vascular and anti-inflammatory mechanisms.

For cardiovascular risk, this means we need to think beyond the primary outcome and consider the cardiovascular implications. The all-cause mortality reduction (HR 0.81) is the most clinically meaningful signal.

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[1] Lincoff AM, et al. N Engl J Med. 2023;389(24):2221-2232.
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Jul 31, 2024 at 5:10 AM#23
lisa_labSD said:
CRP reduction on cardiovascular risk — this is the lab result that excites me most: Baseline hsCRP: 7.0 mg/L (high cardiovascular risk) Month 6 hsCRP:…

Bookmarking. The distinction being drawn above is the one nobody else makes.

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Aug 1, 2024 at 1:19 PM#24

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Metabolic syndrome resolution on cardiovascular risk: I went from meeting 5 of 5 diagnostic criteria to meeting ZERO after 13 months of treatment.

The 5 criteria (and my journey):

  1. Waist circumference: 52" → 34" ✅ Resolved
  2. Triglycerides: 248 → 118 ✅ Resolved
  3. HDL: 36 → 60 ✅ Resolved
  4. Blood pressure: 148/94 → 121/75 ✅ Resolved
  5. Fasting glucose: 128 → 88 ✅ Resolved

Metabolic syndrome reversal is, in my view, the most medically significant outcome of GLP-1 therapy.

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Aug 2, 2024 at 9:27 PM#25
andrew_nyc said:
Metabolic syndrome resolution on cardiovascular risk: I went from meeting 5 of 5 diagnostic criteria to meeting ZERO after 13 months of treatment.

Same pattern here, and in the same order.

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