Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. It helps to say which part of this you are uncertain about. A precise question gets a precise answer; a general one gets everybody’s favourite anecdote.
Reading the retatrutide phase 2 data properly rather than the headline, and the 24% figure is doing a lot of work that the confidence interval does not support as firmly as people think.
What would genuinely help is knowing what the phase 2 dropout pattern implies about how the phase 3 tolerability will read.
Happy to be told the question itself is wrong.
Dr.NateNeph said:It helps to say which part of this you are uncertain about.
Dr.NateNeph has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. The glucagon component looks paradoxical and is not. Glucagon receptor agonism raises energy expenditure and drives hepatic fatty-acid oxidation, and its hyperglycaemic tendency is offset by the GLP-1 arm's insulin secretagogue effect. Net result: intake down from GLP-1/GIP, expenditure up from glucagon, glycaemia neutral or improved. It is a balancing act, and it is why the liver-fat results are the most interesting part of the dataset.
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Browse GL BiochemSkepticalSean said:Reading the retatrutide phase 2 data properly rather than the headline, and the 24% figure is doing a lot of work that the confidence interval does…
This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so out loud. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.
From the other side of the consultation, briefly. Take it one variable at a time. Almost every unanswerable question in these threads is unanswerable because three things changed in the same fortnight, and no amount of subsequent argument can untangle them after the fact.