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Is it normal for the powder to not fully dissolve — July 2024

PedsEndoPhilly Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 3:59 PM 60 replies 3,510 viewsPage 2 of 12
FDA_TrackerJim
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Feb 8, 2024 at 8:38 AM#6
TirzTom said:
The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition.

Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. A research-chemical supplier selling lyophilised powder labelled research use only is not compounding and is not claiming to. It is a different legal universe with no pharmacy oversight, no patient relationship and no content guarantee, and conflating the two in these threads helps nobody.

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Feb 8, 2024 at 3:15 PM#7
PedsEndoPhilly said:
Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within…

GMP compliance checklist relevant to compounded supply compounding quality:

  • Clean room environment with HEPA filtration
  • Environmental monitoring (viable and non-viable)
  • Personnel training and competency assessment
  • Validated analytical methods for testing
  • Stability testing program
  • Complete batch records and traceability
  • Quality management system with deviation handling

A 503B pharmacy following cGMP should be able to answer questions about ALL of these if you ask. Don't be afraid to ask — it's your health.

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Feb 8, 2024 at 9:52 PM#8
FDA_TrackerJim said:
A research-chemical supplier selling lyophilised powder labelled research use only is not compounding and is not claiming to.

Compounded semaglutide formulations for compounded supply: some pharmacies add ingredients like B12, L-carnitine, or BPC-157 to their semaglutide preparations. Are these beneficial or marketing gimmicks?

My take: B12 addition has some logic (GLP-1s can deplete B12). L-carnitine evidence is weak. BPC-157 for GI protection is theoretically interesting but unproven. I prefer straight semaglutide with no additives — fewer variables, cleaner data on what's working.

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Feb 9, 2024 at 4:29 AM#9

Following on from Dr.PathRoch — and this may be the naive question:

What actually distinguishes 503A from 503B, in terms of what each may make and from what starting material?

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Feb 10, 2024 at 12:15 PM#10

Closing the loop on my own question.

The bulks-list asymmetry was the piece I had missed entirely. It explains why one of my two pharmacies is still arguing it can supply and the other simply stopped.

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