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Insulin icodec (Awiqli) — need advice

VendorMark Mon, Feb 2, 2026 at 1:53 AM 31 replies 1,494 viewsPage 2 of 7
Dr.RaviCardio
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Feb 2, 2026 at 6:18 AM#6
NurseKim_ATL said:
Read four things before the headline number.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.

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Feb 2, 2026 at 8:02 AM#7
VendorMark said:
My own curve sits about four points below the published mean and I spent two months assuming that meant something was wrong with me or with my…
VendorMark said:
...regarding the trial evidence...

I think this is an underappreciated point. To expand on it with some data:

A recent meta-analysis of 18 RCTs (n=15,600) found that the trial evidence was associated with a robust effect size across diverse patient populations[1].

The NNT was 15, which is comparable to antihypertensives for stroke reduction. That's a strong clinical argument for this approach.

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Feb 2, 2026 at 9:46 AM#8
Dr.RaviCardio said:
I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them.

Forest plot interpretation for the the trial evidence meta-analysis: when reading the pooled estimate, pay attention to:

  1. Point estimate (HR/RR/OR) — center of the diamond
  2. Confidence interval width — precision of the estimate
  3. I² statistic — heterogeneity across studies
  4. Individual study weights — are results driven by one large trial?
  5. Prediction interval — range of plausible true effects in future settings

The the trial evidence meta-analysis shows a pooled RR of 0.80 (95% CI 0.65-0.90), I²=38%. This is a robust and consistent effect.

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Feb 2, 2026 at 11:30 AM#9

One thing that is still open after SleepDoc_PDX’s answer:

Was that from a primary source or from a summary of one?

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Feb 2, 2026 at 7:52 PM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Update — my curve sits below the published mean and the explanation is that the trial arm had support I do not have. That was reassuring rather than otherwise.

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