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Peptide oxidation and deamidation — November 2025

TrialTracker_MD Thu, May 30, 2024 at 5:10 AM 45 replies 2,266 viewsPage 1 of 9
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TrialTracker_MD
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May 30, 2024 at 5:10 AM#1

Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within weeks of each other.

The narrow version of the question is why a shortage listing created a legal pathway at all, since a shortage is a supply fact rather than a permission.

Numbers rather than impressions, if you have them.

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Dr.SurgeonPGH
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May 30, 2024 at 5:40 AM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. Resolution therefore closed the doors unevenly, and the asymmetry follows from the bulks lists. For 503B the shortage clause was the only route to these molecules, so that route shut completely. A 503A pharmacy can still argue a doorway via "component of an approved drug" — but only for the substance in the form present in the approved product, which is exactly where the base-versus-salt argument lives, and it does nothing about the copy restriction, which came back into force on resolution.

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May 30, 2024 at 6:10 AM#3
Dr.SurgeonPGH said:
Resolution therefore closed the doors unevenly, and the asymmetry follows from the bulks lists.

Agreed, and the enforcement dates were staggered by category — 503A first, 503B a few weeks later — because outsourcing facilities have manufactured inventory and clinic contracts to unwind while a 503A makes to order.

That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.

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May 30, 2024 at 6:40 AM#4
TrialTracker_MD said:
Two pharmacies quoted me last year, one describing itself as 503A and one as 503B, and I assumed 503B just meant bigger until both stopped within…

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. The shortage clause is the answer to the second question and it is a subtraction rather than an addition. Both exemptions forbid compounding something that is essentially a copy of a commercially available approved product. A product FDA has listed as in shortage is not treated as commercially available, so listing removed the objection that otherwise blocked compounding. It never created a permission; it withdrew a prohibition, which is why it evaporated the moment the supply fact changed.

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May 30, 2024 at 9:28 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

I have been on both brand and compounded, and in the context of compounded supply, my experience has been equivalent with both. The key is finding a reliable 503B pharmacy with independent testing.

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