SleepDoc_PDX said:The mechanism and the magnitude are separate questions.
Adding a me-too, because a thread of one person's experience is not much use. I had assumed I was the exception until I read this.
NicoleRaleigh said:For anyone reading later: the numbers in this thread are worth checking against a primary source before you act on them, including mine.
Mine went the same way, slower.
NicoleRaleigh said:For anyone reading later: the numbers in this thread are worth checking against a primary source before you act on them, including mine.
Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. The useful move here is to separate what is established from what is widely repeated. Those two sets overlap less than the confident tone of most write-ups suggests, and the second set is where nearly all the disagreement on this board comes from.
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Shop Reference StandardsAdding the numbers, since they settle part of this. Say what you would expect to see if you were wrong, before you look. It is a small discipline and it changes what you notice.
Moderator note: good thread. Keeping it here rather than moving it, because the question is general enough to be useful. Report rather than reply if it drifts again.