A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:
How would you tell the difference between that and the alternative explanation?
A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:
How would you tell the difference between that and the alternative explanation?
cory_ATX said:NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).
cory_ATX said:...we don't know the long-term effects of cardiovascular risk...
This is a fair point, and I think intellectual honesty requires acknowledging it. GLP-1 agonists in their current form have ~8-10 years of human exposure data. That's not nothing, but it's not 30+ years either.
However: the risk-benefit calculation should also consider the KNOWN long-term effects of untreated obesity — diabetes, cardiovascular disease, cancer, joint destruction, reduced lifespan by 5-10 years.
Uncertainty about GLP-1 long-term safety vs certainty about obesity consequences. The calculus seems clear to me, but reasonable people can disagree.
cory_ATX said:NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).
Positive "side effect" of cardiovascular risk: my blood pressure dropped so much that I'm now off losartan entirely! My cardiologist is thrilled.
If you're on BP meds and losing weight on a GLP-1, monitor your BP at home regularly. Hypotension symptoms (dizziness, lightheadedness when standing) mean your BP meds may need reduction. Don't wait for your next scheduled appointment — call your doctor.
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View Resultscory_ATX said:NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).
Bookmarking. The distinction being drawn above is the one nobody else makes. Taking it to my next appointment.
Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.
I'm 55 years old and want to share my perspective on cardiovascular risk as an older member of this community.
My doctor was initially hesitant because of my age, but the SELECT trial included patients up to 72 and showed consistent benefit across age groups. We started at the lowest dose with closer monitoring.
8 months later: down 45 lbs, off metoprolol, A1C from 7.0% to 5.4%. My cardiologist is thrilled. cardiovascular risk is absolutely relevant for older adults — don't let anyone tell you otherwise.