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Place your bets - which one gets approved first

andrew_nyc Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 4:08 AM 7 replies 580 viewsPage 2 of 2
Dr.GastroMayo
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Apr 27, 2026 at 4:15 PM#6
TrialNerd_Beth said:
Read four things before the headline number.

Pushing back on TrialNerd_Beth here. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.

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Apr 27, 2026 at 9:02 PM#7
andrew_nyc said:
My own curve sits about four points below the published mean and I spent two months assuming that meant something was wrong with me or with my…

Bayesian meta-analysis perspective on the trial evidence: traditional frequentist meta-analyses report point estimates and confidence intervals. Bayesian approaches provide probability distributions that are more intuitive for clinical decision-making.

For example: "There is a 98.5% probability that semaglutide 2.4mg produces >10% weight loss vs placebo" is more actionable than "RR 3.4, 95% CI 2.8-4.1, p<0.001."

The the trial evidence evidence is strong under both frameworks, but Bayesian analysis better communicates the degree of certainty for individual patient counseling.

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Apr 28, 2026 at 1:49 AM#8
Dr.GastroMayo said:
I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them.
Dr.GastroMayo said:
...regarding the trial evidence...

I think this is an underappreciated point. To expand on it with some data:

A recent meta-analysis of 22 RCTs (n=18,900) found that the trial evidence was associated with a consistent effect size across diverse patient populations[1].

The NNT was 20, which is comparable to statins for secondary prevention. That's a strong clinical argument for this approach.

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Apr 28, 2026 at 6:35 AM#9

Following on from marcus_mpls — and this may be the naive question:

How long did you give it before you decided it was working?

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Apr 29, 2026 at 5:29 AM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Update — my curve sits below the published mean and the explanation is that the trial arm had support I do not have. That was reassuring rather than otherwise.

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