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The food noise is gone and honestly it is kind of unsettling — 6 month update

Dr.ObesityLA Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 11:53 PM 36 replies 2,656 viewsPage 8 of 8
BenResearch_OR
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Apr 11, 2024 at 4:28 PM#36
LibrarianMeg said:
Order of operations matters more than any single choice here: establish a baseline, change one thing, wait long enough for it to express itself, then…

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so out loud.

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Apr 12, 2024 at 1:57 PM#37
LibrarianMeg said:
Order of operations matters more than any single choice here: establish a baseline, change one thing, wait long enough for it to express itself, then…

Coming at LibrarianMeg’s question from a different direction. Start from the measurement rather than the conclusion. Almost every disagreement here turns out to be two people measuring different things and comparing the numbers anyway.

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Apr 13, 2024 at 11:26 AM#38

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the same conditions. Nobody wants that answer and it is still the answer.

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Apr 14, 2024 at 8:54 AM#39

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?

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Apr 15, 2024 at 6:22 AM#40
TrialTracker_MD said:
The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the…

Pushing back on TrialTracker_MD here. Filing an objection on the n=1 problem. Personal experience is genuine evidence about one person and very weak evidence about anybody else, and this thread keeps promoting the first into the second.

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