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Dumb question - what is bacteriostatic water exactly — need advice

AmyNC_wife Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 12:08 AM 12 replies 1,479 viewsPage 1 of 3
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Apr 6, 2025 at 12:08 AM#1

A reference post rather than a discussion. Corrections are the point; I would rather this be right than mine. It is about the dosing arithmetic, and it is deliberately narrow — everything I am not confident about is marked as such.

What is actually established

Concentration choice is a precision decision, not a preference. Reconstitute high and every dose is a tiny volume where one unit of syringe error is a large fraction of the dose. Reconstitute low and you get more graduations per dose, so the same hand tremor costs proportionally less. Against that, more diluent means more benzyl alcohol and a shorter comfortable in-use window.

The condition it depends on

The arithmetic is right and one caveat matters: a U-40 syringe changes the markings, not the volumes. If someone hands you U-40 and you read it as U-100 you will be 2.5 times out, and that error has a direction — it is always an overdose.

The practical version

The three numbers to write on the vial: total mg, total ml, and mg per ml. Everything else is division. And the sanity check is that dose volume times number of doses should be less than the volume you put in, because dead space takes the difference.

What I am not sure about

What I actually want to know is how to check the arithmetic without trusting a website calculator, since three calculators gave me three answers. I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

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Apr 6, 2025 at 12:15 AM#2
AmyNC_wife said:
Concentration choice is a precision decision, not a preference.

That is correct as far as it goes, and here is where it stops going. Dead space is the answer to the missing dose. A fixed-needle insulin syringe holds a few microlitres in the hub and needle after the plunger bottoms out, and on small draws that is a measurable percentage of every dose. Across ten draws it adds up to most of an eleventh, which is exactly the "nine draws from a ten-dose vial" complaint. Luer-lock syringes are worse; low-dead-space fixed-needle designs are better.

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Apr 6, 2025 at 12:22 AM#3
AmyNC_wife said:
Concentration choice is a precision decision, not a preference.

I am going to disagree with reconstituting low as a general rule. More diluent, more punctures, more in-use days at room temperature, and the stability trade-off is real. Precision is not the only variable being optimised.

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Apr 6, 2025 at 12:29 AM#4

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. Do it in two steps and it stops being confusing. First concentration: 10mg into 2ml is 5mg/ml. Then volume: a 0.5mg dose is 0.5 ÷ 5 = 0.1ml. Then units, and this is where people go wrong — a U-100 syringe is graduated in hundredths of a millilitre, so 0.1ml is 10 units. The word "units" has nothing to do with milligrams; it is a volume marking that exists because insulin happens to come at 100 units per ml.

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Apr 6, 2025 at 1:04 AM#5
Dr.ObesityLA said:
Dead space is the answer to the missing dose.

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth.

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